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		<title>By: John Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.four-pillars.ca/2008/12/10/the-great-american-car-company-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-14298</link>
		<dc:creator>John Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 14:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>34 Billion for the car companies?  Let&#039;s see, there are about 7 million new cars sold each year in north america. We could take that money and give a rebate of  $10,000 per new car sold for the next five years. I say let the market decide which brands and stlyes come out on top. With that kind of incentive the dealers would have a hey day, hell I might even look at buying my first new car. For the save the earth crowd we could tie those rebates to fuel efficiency. Instead of tilting the incentives towards SUV&#039;s and HUMMERS why not make it cheaper for us to buy hybrids and electrics. What if it was cheaper to buy the  hybrid than the V6? If the oil companies have a problem with that lets see them prop up the big three. At the end of the five years we would have stronger more inovative car companies, better fuel efficiency, and an even playing field for all. With the current bailouts we only delay the inevitable, reward the weak and pour good money into a sink hole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>34 Billion for the car companies?  Let&#8217;s see, there are about 7 million new cars sold each year in north america. We could take that money and give a rebate of  $10,000 per new car sold for the next five years. I say let the market decide which brands and stlyes come out on top. With that kind of incentive the dealers would have a hey day, hell I might even look at buying my first new car. For the save the earth crowd we could tie those rebates to fuel efficiency. Instead of tilting the incentives towards SUV&#8217;s and HUMMERS why not make it cheaper for us to buy hybrids and electrics. What if it was cheaper to buy the  hybrid than the V6? If the oil companies have a problem with that lets see them prop up the big three. At the end of the five years we would have stronger more inovative car companies, better fuel efficiency, and an even playing field for all. With the current bailouts we only delay the inevitable, reward the weak and pour good money into a sink hole.</p>
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		<title>By: COBRA coverage costs ... - Page 2 - AFboard</title>
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		<dc:creator>COBRA coverage costs ... - Page 2 - AFboard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 02:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] one dime for my insurance and a guarantee of a 40 hour week along with decent wages hurt anyone?    The Great American Car Company Bailout    __________________ “When you blame others, you give up your power to change.” &#8211; Dr. Robert [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What&#8217;s The Problem With Detroit? - Amateur Asset Allocator</title>
		<link>http://www.four-pillars.ca/2008/12/10/the-great-american-car-company-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-9932</link>
		<dc:creator>What&#8217;s The Problem With Detroit? - Amateur Asset Allocator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 23:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] made an astute observation recently, noting that American automakers stuck to gas-guzzlers because people were buying them. Toyota and Honda, he says, started off manufacturing small, fuel-efficient cars because [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Should You Give Children Cash For Christmas? &#124; Credit Card Information</title>
		<link>http://www.four-pillars.ca/2008/12/10/the-great-american-car-company-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-9836</link>
		<dc:creator>Should You Give Children Cash For Christmas? &#124; Credit Card Information</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 06:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Four Pillars has some musings on The Great American Car Company Bailout [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jose Roncal</title>
		<link>http://www.four-pillars.ca/2008/12/10/the-great-american-car-company-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-9831</link>
		<dc:creator>Jose Roncal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 03:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since the U.S. has become a Bailout Nation, why donâ€™t we just give them the $100 billion now, check it off Obamaâ€™s to-do list and stop wasting time and taxpayerâ€™s money on a Congress that seems to be operating without a compass. This has already dragged on too long.  


In my opinion, any so-called Car Czar that can rescue these two companies with $14 billion, also wears a cape and can leap off tall buildings. This whole deal strikes me as a way to buy time. The auto industry has a long row to hoe before they reap any results, what with restructuring, slashing their work force, closing plants, dealing with UAW, etc not to mention actually producing cars that consumers want. 


So what exactly is on the Car Czarâ€™s to-do list? So far it sounds like heâ€™ll come up with some guidelines for restructuring GM and Chrysler by the first of next year. But if the auto execs canâ€™t prove that they have a plan to reinvent themselves by Feb 15, they have to give the money back.   Give me a break! 


If the $14 billion is an emergency loan, itâ€™s just a survival kit, so what money will be left to give back? One forecasting firm is saying that with or without the bailout, Chrysler is already a lost cause. And what restructuring plan?  Didnâ€™t they already submit a plan?  Furthermore, under whose leadership will these terms be set? A lame duckâ€™s or will they be enacted after Obama takes the oath?   


Apparently the bill will restrict executive compensation, but why are these two CEO&#039;s still there? I personally would have resigned a long time ago. But these poor excuses for leaders either werenâ€™t paying attention to the mess they were creating, or they just didnâ€™t care. Who are they going to blame now?  The reluctant consumer? Oil prices?  Japanese and Korean cars?  The economy? Who? 


Iâ€™ll tell you whoâ€™s to blame.  Itâ€™s you, the auto industry CEOs who bear the full responsibility. You were the ones who were either too complacent or else didnâ€™t have the vision to foresee the geopolitical and economic forces that shaped competition as you continued to crank out gas-guzzling SUVs.   It is you who have not mastered the core principles of leadership or even the most basic skills required to manage.  Iâ€™m referring to the bottom-line business basics of planning, organizing, motivating, performance management, risk management, forecasting, and so on. Itâ€™s all there in Management 101! 


And I also fault the boards of directors for failing in their oversight.  Boards are charged with the responsibilities of setting broad policies and objectives, selecting, appointing, supporting and reviewing the performance of the chief executive, ensuring the availability of adequate financial resources, approving annual budgets, being accountable to the stakeholders for the organization&#039;s performance.   


These are standard duties for members of any corporate board, but they should be even more rigorously adhered to by high-profile publicly-traded corporations. I give these CEOs and their boards a failing grade on all points â€“they not only failed, they failed miserably! 


And whatâ€™s worse, millions of people are being affected, not only throughout the Rustbelt, but millions more across America and around the globe in places like Argentina and other countries where there are manufacturing plants.  You have let down all your stakeholders!   


Perhaps the savior in the cape, the one they will call the Car Czar, will do a better job than the two CEOs have done. And while the czar will only be a puppet position until Obama takes the reins, Iâ€™d like to suggest this as the first order of the dayâ€”fire everybody at the top of the auto industry chart who was responsible for creating so much grief. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the U.S. has become a Bailout Nation, why donâ€™t we just give them the $100 billion now, check it off Obamaâ€™s to-do list and stop wasting time and taxpayerâ€™s money on a Congress that seems to be operating without a compass. This has already dragged on too long.  </p>
<p>In my opinion, any so-called Car Czar that can rescue these two companies with $14 billion, also wears a cape and can leap off tall buildings. This whole deal strikes me as a way to buy time. The auto industry has a long row to hoe before they reap any results, what with restructuring, slashing their work force, closing plants, dealing with UAW, etc not to mention actually producing cars that consumers want. </p>
<p>So what exactly is on the Car Czarâ€™s to-do list? So far it sounds like heâ€™ll come up with some guidelines for restructuring GM and Chrysler by the first of next year. But if the auto execs canâ€™t prove that they have a plan to reinvent themselves by Feb 15, they have to give the money back.   Give me a break! </p>
<p>If the $14 billion is an emergency loan, itâ€™s just a survival kit, so what money will be left to give back? One forecasting firm is saying that with or without the bailout, Chrysler is already a lost cause. And what restructuring plan?  Didnâ€™t they already submit a plan?  Furthermore, under whose leadership will these terms be set? A lame duckâ€™s or will they be enacted after Obama takes the oath?   </p>
<p>Apparently the bill will restrict executive compensation, but why are these two CEO&#8217;s still there? I personally would have resigned a long time ago. But these poor excuses for leaders either werenâ€™t paying attention to the mess they were creating, or they just didnâ€™t care. Who are they going to blame now?  The reluctant consumer? Oil prices?  Japanese and Korean cars?  The economy? Who? </p>
<p>Iâ€™ll tell you whoâ€™s to blame.  Itâ€™s you, the auto industry CEOs who bear the full responsibility. You were the ones who were either too complacent or else didnâ€™t have the vision to foresee the geopolitical and economic forces that shaped competition as you continued to crank out gas-guzzling SUVs.   It is you who have not mastered the core principles of leadership or even the most basic skills required to manage.  Iâ€™m referring to the bottom-line business basics of planning, organizing, motivating, performance management, risk management, forecasting, and so on. Itâ€™s all there in Management 101! </p>
<p>And I also fault the boards of directors for failing in their oversight.  Boards are charged with the responsibilities of setting broad policies and objectives, selecting, appointing, supporting and reviewing the performance of the chief executive, ensuring the availability of adequate financial resources, approving annual budgets, being accountable to the stakeholders for the organization&#8217;s performance.   </p>
<p>These are standard duties for members of any corporate board, but they should be even more rigorously adhered to by high-profile publicly-traded corporations. I give these CEOs and their boards a failing grade on all points â€“they not only failed, they failed miserably! </p>
<p>And whatâ€™s worse, millions of people are being affected, not only throughout the Rustbelt, but millions more across America and around the globe in places like Argentina and other countries where there are manufacturing plants.  You have let down all your stakeholders!   </p>
<p>Perhaps the savior in the cape, the one they will call the Car Czar, will do a better job than the two CEOs have done. And while the czar will only be a puppet position until Obama takes the reins, Iâ€™d like to suggest this as the first order of the dayâ€”fire everybody at the top of the auto industry chart who was responsible for creating so much grief.</p>
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		<title>By: Giveaway, BCE and Weekend Highlights &#124; Million Dollar Journey</title>
		<link>http://www.four-pillars.ca/2008/12/10/the-great-american-car-company-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-9794</link>
		<dc:creator>Giveaway, BCE and Weekend Highlights &#124; Million Dollar Journey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Four Pillars has a great post explaining the current automotive bailout fiasco. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Peter @ Canadian Banks</title>
		<link>http://www.four-pillars.ca/2008/12/10/the-great-american-car-company-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-9777</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter @ Canadian Banks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Throwing good money after bad, won&#039;t solve the problem, and these companies will be either bankrupt within a year or will require even greater bailout to keep them afloat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Throwing good money after bad, won&#8217;t solve the problem, and these companies will be either bankrupt within a year or will require even greater bailout to keep them afloat.</p>
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		<title>By: TStrump</title>
		<link>http://www.four-pillars.ca/2008/12/10/the-great-american-car-company-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-9774</link>
		<dc:creator>TStrump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This bailout drives me nuts!
Rather than modernizing and improving their businesses and cost structures, they car companies sat on their asses.
Better companies are passing them by and now they need public money to keep up.
I wonder if anyting will change - will they use the money to improve?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This bailout drives me nuts!<br />
Rather than modernizing and improving their businesses and cost structures, they car companies sat on their asses.<br />
Better companies are passing them by and now they need public money to keep up.<br />
I wonder if anyting will change &#8211; will they use the money to improve?</p>
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		<title>By: nancy (aka money coach)</title>
		<link>http://www.four-pillars.ca/2008/12/10/the-great-american-car-company-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-9761</link>
		<dc:creator>nancy (aka money coach)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 06:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damned if we do; damned if we don&#039;t.  Bear in mind that if they&#039;re not bailed (and I hope they&#039;re not, end of the day) dealerships in Canada will shut down too = greater unemployment = all that goes with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damned if we do; damned if we don&#8217;t.  Bear in mind that if they&#8217;re not bailed (and I hope they&#8217;re not, end of the day) dealerships in Canada will shut down too = greater unemployment = all that goes with that.</p>
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		<title>By: mjw2005</title>
		<link>http://www.four-pillars.ca/2008/12/10/the-great-american-car-company-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-9760</link>
		<dc:creator>mjw2005</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 05:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Japanese sold more and are more profitable because they are better run companies....I have had American cars and I swear after 5 years they fall apart....like its designed in to make the parts departments money.....My Asian owned cars seem to last a lot longer and just feel more well put together....It was more than just dumb luck why Toyota and Honda are not facing bankruptcy....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Japanese sold more and are more profitable because they are better run companies&#8230;.I have had American cars and I swear after 5 years they fall apart&#8230;.like its designed in to make the parts departments money&#8230;..My Asian owned cars seem to last a lot longer and just feel more well put together&#8230;.It was more than just dumb luck why Toyota and Honda are not facing bankruptcy&#8230;.</p>
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