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		<title>By: Gates VP</title>
		<link>http://www.four-pillars.ca/2009/02/23/2009-homeowner-stimulus-package-is-a-waste-of-money/comment-page-1/#comment-30422</link>
		<dc:creator>Gates VP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 20:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angela, the big problem here is your opening line: &lt;i&gt;&quot;In today’s world one minute you’re making decent money living an average life then the plant shuts down and you can no longer make your mortgage payment your car note etc…&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s not &lt;i&gt;one minute... then the next... &lt;/i&gt;. 

Look, this is in every major personal finance book out there.
Step 1: eliminate debt and balance the books
Step 2: build an emergency fund
Step 3+: buy stuff &amp; increase emergency fund as necessary

Seriously, if you lose your job and can&#039;t afford your next mortgage payment, then you have to dip into savings / emergency fund. If you don&#039;t have savings to cover at least a couple of months mortgage, then you are seriously under-funded and can&#039;t really afford your house.

You &lt;b&gt;know&lt;/b&gt; that you can&#039;t keep the plant from closing, so you have to start by protecting yourself. The &lt;b&gt;emergency fund&lt;/b&gt; forms the basis of that protection. There are lots of little things you can do to help offset risks, but the emergency fund is your number one step.

If &lt;i&gt;&quot;one minute you have a job&quot;&lt;/i&gt;, then &lt;i&gt;&quot;the next minute you lose your job and can&#039;t make your mortgage&quot;&lt;/i&gt; you have failed to protect yourself. You could have picked up basically any one of a hundred different personal finance books / courses. You could have read a few of the hundreds of blogs on the topic.

They all say the same stuff: Emergency fund / cash savings &lt;i&gt;then&lt;/i&gt; big purchases. Many of the books / blogs also talk about managing risks. Home purchases are not just the biggest investment most people will make, they are also one of the largest risks people ever take.

So &lt;b&gt;Angela&lt;/b&gt;, I do have some nice things to say. I&#039;m sorry. I&#039;m sorry this is happening to you, I&#039;m sorry that we as a society haven&#039;t pushed through the important message about personal finance management. In fact, I&#039;m so sorry that as a US tax-payer (which I am), am proposing (via our elected officials) to help fund the &lt;i&gt;homeowner affordability and stability plan&lt;/i&gt; despite all of the things I just said about it being your fault.

(me, I&#039;m 29, make twice the median income for my region. I own neither a car nor a house, so you can see why I&#039;m generally unsympathetic)

My blog has a post analyzing risk decisions in detail:
http://gatesvp.blogspot.com/2009/03/time-has-yet-to-come.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angela, the big problem here is your opening line: <i>&#8220;In today’s world one minute you’re making decent money living an average life then the plant shuts down and you can no longer make your mortgage payment your car note etc…&#8221;</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s not <i>one minute&#8230; then the next&#8230; </i>. </p>
<p>Look, this is in every major personal finance book out there.<br />
Step 1: eliminate debt and balance the books<br />
Step 2: build an emergency fund<br />
Step 3+: buy stuff &amp; increase emergency fund as necessary</p>
<p>Seriously, if you lose your job and can&#8217;t afford your next mortgage payment, then you have to dip into savings / emergency fund. If you don&#8217;t have savings to cover at least a couple of months mortgage, then you are seriously under-funded and can&#8217;t really afford your house.</p>
<p>You <b>know</b> that you can&#8217;t keep the plant from closing, so you have to start by protecting yourself. The <b>emergency fund</b> forms the basis of that protection. There are lots of little things you can do to help offset risks, but the emergency fund is your number one step.</p>
<p>If <i>&#8220;one minute you have a job&#8221;</i>, then <i>&#8220;the next minute you lose your job and can&#8217;t make your mortgage&#8221;</i> you have failed to protect yourself. You could have picked up basically any one of a hundred different personal finance books / courses. You could have read a few of the hundreds of blogs on the topic.</p>
<p>They all say the same stuff: Emergency fund / cash savings <i>then</i> big purchases. Many of the books / blogs also talk about managing risks. Home purchases are not just the biggest investment most people will make, they are also one of the largest risks people ever take.</p>
<p>So <b>Angela</b>, I do have some nice things to say. I&#8217;m sorry. I&#8217;m sorry this is happening to you, I&#8217;m sorry that we as a society haven&#8217;t pushed through the important message about personal finance management. In fact, I&#8217;m so sorry that as a US tax-payer (which I am), am proposing (via our elected officials) to help fund the <i>homeowner affordability and stability plan</i> despite all of the things I just said about it being your fault.</p>
<p>(me, I&#8217;m 29, make twice the median income for my region. I own neither a car nor a house, so you can see why I&#8217;m generally unsympathetic)</p>
<p>My blog has a post analyzing risk decisions in detail:<br />
<a href="http://gatesvp.blogspot.com/2009/03/time-has-yet-to-come.html" rel="nofollow">http://gatesvp.blogspot.com/2009/03/time-has-yet-to-come.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Angela</title>
		<link>http://www.four-pillars.ca/2009/02/23/2009-homeowner-stimulus-package-is-a-waste-of-money/comment-page-1/#comment-30371</link>
		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 09:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In today&#039;s world one minute you&#039;re making decent money living an average life then the plant shuts down and you can no longer make your mortgage payment your car note etc...BUT does that mean you were living above your means,can you keep that plant from closing some things can&#039;t be helped and to all you insensitive so called humans who find it necessary to kick people when they&#039;re having a hard time just remember what goes around come around find something positive to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In today&#8217;s world one minute you&#8217;re making decent money living an average life then the plant shuts down and you can no longer make your mortgage payment your car note etc&#8230;BUT does that mean you were living above your means,can you keep that plant from closing some things can&#8217;t be helped and to all you insensitive so called humans who find it necessary to kick people when they&#8217;re having a hard time just remember what goes around come around find something positive to say.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryin</title>
		<link>http://www.four-pillars.ca/2009/02/23/2009-homeowner-stimulus-package-is-a-waste-of-money/comment-page-1/#comment-17449</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 17:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vonna-  You bought that house when a 30yr fixed mortage was at a historically low rate.  If you could not afford the house with the 30 year fixed rate then you could not afford it.  I have no sympathy for those like you and your husband.  You are getting exactly what you deserve.  You complain about high credit card interest rates but it is you that choose to carry a balance on the cards.  (Which is NOT the way credit cards were designed to be used)  What did you buy with those cards?  I would bet that whatever it was it was not necessary.  Your bad choices led to where you are at now.  NOT the banks, not the mortage brokers, not the gov, no one but you.  The sooner you accept that the sooner you can join us in adult world.
If it were up to me, everyone that defaults on a mortage would have to wear a pin for the rest of their lives so the rest of us that were responsible would know who screwed us.  We would not be in the mess we are in if you made your payments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vonna-  You bought that house when a 30yr fixed mortage was at a historically low rate.  If you could not afford the house with the 30 year fixed rate then you could not afford it.  I have no sympathy for those like you and your husband.  You are getting exactly what you deserve.  You complain about high credit card interest rates but it is you that choose to carry a balance on the cards.  (Which is NOT the way credit cards were designed to be used)  What did you buy with those cards?  I would bet that whatever it was it was not necessary.  Your bad choices led to where you are at now.  NOT the banks, not the mortage brokers, not the gov, no one but you.  The sooner you accept that the sooner you can join us in adult world.<br />
If it were up to me, everyone that defaults on a mortage would have to wear a pin for the rest of their lives so the rest of us that were responsible would know who screwed us.  We would not be in the mess we are in if you made your payments.</p>
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		<title>By: Are you kidding me??</title>
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		<dc:creator>Are you kidding me??</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 18:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VONNA THIS ONES FOR YOU.....

I have a question and I want you to answer it honestly. If the &quot;teaser rate&quot; or arm was not available at the time of your purchase and you went on traditional financing would you have been able to purchase and reasonable AFFORD that house? I&#039;m guessing , if you are like a lot of people, that the answer is NO. You simply bought something you couldn&#039;t afford and when the TRUE payment kicked in on the investment, you are crying the blues and using every other excuse as to why  to why you can&#039;t afford your house.  It is a &quot;look what I got&quot; mentality that lasted a couple years when you weren&#039;t even coming close to being able to afford that house. As far as the other factors such as higher interest rates on your cards etc., they are a direct relation of this mess and your kind of irresponsible buying has gotten us into.  Take some accountability and some personal responsiblity already. So you lose your house. There are greater tragedies in the world. If I bought a ferrari and it was a dollar a month for the first two years and then it went up to its normal payment and I could no longer afford it, would no doubt be reposessed. But  I wouldn&#039;t  be crying that they took  my  Ferrari. I would actually be laughing that I manipulated the system enough to be able to drive something that I knew was above my means which is obviously what you did with your house.  I do not say this to be mean, but I am so sick of people pointing fingers. Also your loan officer SAID  he SAID, but you SIGNED!!!---are you kidding me, If I told you cows crap gold bars would you sign for one???? Let&#039;s get serious. I saw your income and I have to say I make substantially more, but do I own a home. NO,,,,,,and do you know why,,,,,,,,because I KNOW I cant afford it. America is on Front street,,but all I have to say is &quot;Look what you got now&quot; crappy credit, and your hand out,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,PS. I would like to thank you as someone who has never been late on a bill in 20 years for my interest rates being laterally increased due to your irresponsibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VONNA THIS ONES FOR YOU&#8230;..</p>
<p>I have a question and I want you to answer it honestly. If the &#8220;teaser rate&#8221; or arm was not available at the time of your purchase and you went on traditional financing would you have been able to purchase and reasonable AFFORD that house? I&#8217;m guessing , if you are like a lot of people, that the answer is NO. You simply bought something you couldn&#8217;t afford and when the TRUE payment kicked in on the investment, you are crying the blues and using every other excuse as to why  to why you can&#8217;t afford your house.  It is a &#8220;look what I got&#8221; mentality that lasted a couple years when you weren&#8217;t even coming close to being able to afford that house. As far as the other factors such as higher interest rates on your cards etc., they are a direct relation of this mess and your kind of irresponsible buying has gotten us into.  Take some accountability and some personal responsiblity already. So you lose your house. There are greater tragedies in the world. If I bought a ferrari and it was a dollar a month for the first two years and then it went up to its normal payment and I could no longer afford it, would no doubt be reposessed. But  I wouldn&#8217;t  be crying that they took  my  Ferrari. I would actually be laughing that I manipulated the system enough to be able to drive something that I knew was above my means which is obviously what you did with your house.  I do not say this to be mean, but I am so sick of people pointing fingers. Also your loan officer SAID  he SAID, but you SIGNED!!!&#8212;are you kidding me, If I told you cows crap gold bars would you sign for one???? Let&#8217;s get serious. I saw your income and I have to say I make substantially more, but do I own a home. NO,,,,,,and do you know why,,,,,,,,because I KNOW I cant afford it. America is on Front street,,but all I have to say is &#8220;Look what you got now&#8221; crappy credit, and your hand out,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,PS. I would like to thank you as someone who has never been late on a bill in 20 years for my interest rates being laterally increased due to your irresponsibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Babs</title>
		<link>http://www.four-pillars.ca/2009/02/23/2009-homeowner-stimulus-package-is-a-waste-of-money/comment-page-1/#comment-11671</link>
		<dc:creator>Babs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  Are you people all screwed in the head. The stimulus package isn&#039;t realistic.  PERIOD.   Only in a dream world should those making anywhere from 25,000$ yearly to 200,000$ yearly be itemized in the same package.   Bottomline is this... This package isn&#039;t going to help the working man or woman who is lower middle class and middle class, who may be a payment or two behind and who are struggling to make ends meet due to the economy and possibly other various road blocks.   Whether it be job loss, disablement, death in the family...it doesn&#039;t matter.  Those who receive from the government are those who either are on the upper  end of the food chain  (and hopefully for you *holes with attitude, you will get yours someday) (There should be no &quot;bailouts&quot; for stock marketers, etc...who are WA WAing,  bank accounts should be frozen and homes should be taken for them too ), and those on the low end of the food chain who are druggies, alcoholics, have 10 children, don&#039;t work because they CAN get it from the government (it was the way they were raised and will be handed on down the line), are on SSI because they are obese, etc, etc.    That&#039;s the way it is.  Those of us, who are working 10, 12, 14 hours a day, sold our 2nd TV and Car, and are struggling to make ends meet will see no actual assistance that will make any big difference.  It&#039;s up to us to help ourselves and hope that people who don&#039;t care about anyone but themselves, like Gates, Autumn and Four Pillars ends up in a pit so deep that not even they can crawl out without lowering themselves to cry for help...   Help from the government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  Are you people all screwed in the head. The stimulus package isn&#8217;t realistic.  PERIOD.   Only in a dream world should those making anywhere from 25,000$ yearly to 200,000$ yearly be itemized in the same package.   Bottomline is this&#8230; This package isn&#8217;t going to help the working man or woman who is lower middle class and middle class, who may be a payment or two behind and who are struggling to make ends meet due to the economy and possibly other various road blocks.   Whether it be job loss, disablement, death in the family&#8230;it doesn&#8217;t matter.  Those who receive from the government are those who either are on the upper  end of the food chain  (and hopefully for you *holes with attitude, you will get yours someday) (There should be no &#8220;bailouts&#8221; for stock marketers, etc&#8230;who are WA WAing,  bank accounts should be frozen and homes should be taken for them too ), and those on the low end of the food chain who are druggies, alcoholics, have 10 children, don&#8217;t work because they CAN get it from the government (it was the way they were raised and will be handed on down the line), are on SSI because they are obese, etc, etc.    That&#8217;s the way it is.  Those of us, who are working 10, 12, 14 hours a day, sold our 2nd TV and Car, and are struggling to make ends meet will see no actual assistance that will make any big difference.  It&#8217;s up to us to help ourselves and hope that people who don&#8217;t care about anyone but themselves, like Gates, Autumn and Four Pillars ends up in a pit so deep that not even they can crawl out without lowering themselves to cry for help&#8230;   Help from the government.</p>
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		<title>By: autumn</title>
		<link>http://www.four-pillars.ca/2009/02/23/2009-homeowner-stimulus-package-is-a-waste-of-money/comment-page-1/#comment-11653</link>
		<dc:creator>autumn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 02:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HAHA,  I didn&#039;t realize taxes were a saving plan, oh wait a bailout!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HAHA,  I didn&#8217;t realize taxes were a saving plan, oh wait a bailout!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Gates VP</title>
		<link>http://www.four-pillars.ca/2009/02/23/2009-homeowner-stimulus-package-is-a-waste-of-money/comment-page-1/#comment-11638</link>
		<dc:creator>Gates VP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 22:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, &lt;b&gt;@Vonna&lt;/b&gt;;

There is no logical way out of this trap, though I understand that you are very angry.

The only good financial decision you listed was going through post-secondary education. Though you don&#039;t list your degrees / careers and 55k combined likely means that you&#039;re still both early in your career.

But let&#039;s cut to the chase, &lt;b&gt;why do you deserve a little help?&lt;/b&gt;.

Most people in the world are renters not owners. Why do you deserve a home of your own, when a more skilled worker in India is living in an apartment with their children and parents?

Most &lt;i&gt;families&lt;/i&gt; in the world do not own cars, yet you &lt;i&gt;each&lt;/i&gt; own one car. Why do you each deserve a car when the Chinese people making them cannot even afford one per family?

&lt;i&gt;I have ALWAYS paid my bills ontime and in full&lt;/i&gt;
That doesn&#039;t matter.  The bills you were paying were obviously not enough or they wouldn&#039;t be raising your mortgage would they?  You just spent a few years paying the &quot;teaser rate&quot;, but the true cost of your bills were much higher.

Look, you made an unsound financial decision buying the home that did at the price and terms that you did.  You pay taxes, but so do we, and I&#039;d rather have my tax dollars go towards infrastructure repairs and better schooling for US children.

Yes it would be &lt;i&gt;nice&lt;/i&gt; of someone to renegotiate your mortgage, but when you signed the paperwork, you took responsibility for all of these potential problems.
Yes you&#039;re getting less hours, but that was always a risk, right?
Yes the home salesman lied to you wasn&#039;t that always a risk? Have you pursued legal action?
When you signed the credit card statement, you knew that the interest rates could jump on you, right?  It&#039;s on the piece of paper that you signed, isn&#039;t it?
Given that you&#039;re only working part-time have you been able to find a different job to make up the hours? Maybe a different full-time job instead?  Have you looked? Have you spent 100 hours looking?

&lt;i&gt;...I am a immature stupid idiot...&lt;/i&gt;
It&#039;s clear from your posts that you made some questionable decisions. It&#039;s also clear that you resent your situation, but it&#039;s obvious that you signed a lot of papers you probably shouldn&#039;t have. Clearly you need to accept that you are responsible for the papers you signed.  Maybe you&#039;re just angry right now, but maturity and responsibility go hand and hand.

If it&#039;s any consolation, lots of  otherwise smart people made similar financial mistakes.  Just because you made some poor financial decisions doesn&#039;t make you a &quot;stupid idiot&quot;.

Why not look at this positively?

You&#039;re making 55k, you&#039;re both college-educated and you&#039;re living in the US.  That alone means that you can afford a nice two-bedroom apartment, a single car, good food and general quality of life that is nearly unparalleled any where else in the world. So all in all you&#039;re doing all right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, <b>@Vonna</b>;</p>
<p>There is no logical way out of this trap, though I understand that you are very angry.</p>
<p>The only good financial decision you listed was going through post-secondary education. Though you don&#8217;t list your degrees / careers and 55k combined likely means that you&#8217;re still both early in your career.</p>
<p>But let&#8217;s cut to the chase, <b>why do you deserve a little help?</b>.</p>
<p>Most people in the world are renters not owners. Why do you deserve a home of your own, when a more skilled worker in India is living in an apartment with their children and parents?</p>
<p>Most <i>families</i> in the world do not own cars, yet you <i>each</i> own one car. Why do you each deserve a car when the Chinese people making them cannot even afford one per family?</p>
<p><i>I have ALWAYS paid my bills ontime and in full</i><br />
That doesn&#8217;t matter.  The bills you were paying were obviously not enough or they wouldn&#8217;t be raising your mortgage would they?  You just spent a few years paying the &#8220;teaser rate&#8221;, but the true cost of your bills were much higher.</p>
<p>Look, you made an unsound financial decision buying the home that did at the price and terms that you did.  You pay taxes, but so do we, and I&#8217;d rather have my tax dollars go towards infrastructure repairs and better schooling for US children.</p>
<p>Yes it would be <i>nice</i> of someone to renegotiate your mortgage, but when you signed the paperwork, you took responsibility for all of these potential problems.<br />
Yes you&#8217;re getting less hours, but that was always a risk, right?<br />
Yes the home salesman lied to you wasn&#8217;t that always a risk? Have you pursued legal action?<br />
When you signed the credit card statement, you knew that the interest rates could jump on you, right?  It&#8217;s on the piece of paper that you signed, isn&#8217;t it?<br />
Given that you&#8217;re only working part-time have you been able to find a different job to make up the hours? Maybe a different full-time job instead?  Have you looked? Have you spent 100 hours looking?</p>
<p><i>&#8230;I am a immature stupid idiot&#8230;</i><br />
It&#8217;s clear from your posts that you made some questionable decisions. It&#8217;s also clear that you resent your situation, but it&#8217;s obvious that you signed a lot of papers you probably shouldn&#8217;t have. Clearly you need to accept that you are responsible for the papers you signed.  Maybe you&#8217;re just angry right now, but maturity and responsibility go hand and hand.</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s any consolation, lots of  otherwise smart people made similar financial mistakes.  Just because you made some poor financial decisions doesn&#8217;t make you a &#8220;stupid idiot&#8221;.</p>
<p>Why not look at this positively?</p>
<p>You&#8217;re making 55k, you&#8217;re both college-educated and you&#8217;re living in the US.  That alone means that you can afford a nice two-bedroom apartment, a single car, good food and general quality of life that is nearly unparalleled any where else in the world. So all in all you&#8217;re doing all right.</p>
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		<title>By: Vonna</title>
		<link>http://www.four-pillars.ca/2009/02/23/2009-homeowner-stimulus-package-is-a-waste-of-money/comment-page-1/#comment-11621</link>
		<dc:creator>Vonna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 18:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, fine, I have made some bad choices but I have also paid my share of taxes (15% each year of MY income for federal taxes alone and 10% of my spouses income plus we have owed the Federal government taxes and paid them faithfully and our gross income is only 55,000 between the two of us so over $13,000 went into taxes just from us alone this last year) so aren&#039;t I also contributing anything to help myself - I guess that doesn&#039;t count for anything ONLY if it is YOUR tax money does it count. I am NOT asking for someone to come in and pay my bills for me just to maybe help negotiate a slightly lower interest rate. I have ALWAYS paid my bills ontime and in full - should I be punished by increases in interest due to those people who don&#039;t? I guess, according to all that have responded to my initial post, I am a immature stupid idiot and will NEVER deserve the right to live like them even though I have gone to college and have worked since I was 11 years old (full time for most of that working period). I purposely don&#039;t have children so that I can get help from the government (which I thought was a smart choice). Maybe I should start popping out childen maybe then I will start getting help? Cause apparently, unless you have children in the world, you don&#039;t deserve to even ask for help little lone get any!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, fine, I have made some bad choices but I have also paid my share of taxes (15% each year of MY income for federal taxes alone and 10% of my spouses income plus we have owed the Federal government taxes and paid them faithfully and our gross income is only 55,000 between the two of us so over $13,000 went into taxes just from us alone this last year) so aren&#8217;t I also contributing anything to help myself &#8211; I guess that doesn&#8217;t count for anything ONLY if it is YOUR tax money does it count. I am NOT asking for someone to come in and pay my bills for me just to maybe help negotiate a slightly lower interest rate. I have ALWAYS paid my bills ontime and in full &#8211; should I be punished by increases in interest due to those people who don&#8217;t? I guess, according to all that have responded to my initial post, I am a immature stupid idiot and will NEVER deserve the right to live like them even though I have gone to college and have worked since I was 11 years old (full time for most of that working period). I purposely don&#8217;t have children so that I can get help from the government (which I thought was a smart choice). Maybe I should start popping out childen maybe then I will start getting help? Cause apparently, unless you have children in the world, you don&#8217;t deserve to even ask for help little lone get any!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: autumn</title>
		<link>http://www.four-pillars.ca/2009/02/23/2009-homeowner-stimulus-package-is-a-waste-of-money/comment-page-1/#comment-11608</link>
		<dc:creator>autumn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and now my taxes dollars have to help you out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and now my taxes dollars have to help you out.</p>
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		<title>By: autumn</title>
		<link>http://www.four-pillars.ca/2009/02/23/2009-homeowner-stimulus-package-is-a-waste-of-money/comment-page-1/#comment-11605</link>
		<dc:creator>autumn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is for Vonna
So you are just a victim in all this?  Well that&#039;s what you are saying.  Apparently the bad choices you made, specifically the ARM, aren&#039;t your responsibility.  And since it&#039;s apparently a fact it takes 2 peoples incomes for 1 to survive (totally out of left field), why are there still plenty of people like me.  I have a mortgage that I pay, I have 2 children, am a stay at home mother.  So you think my husband must be out making good money somewhere huh?!!! Uh no, we are military, enlisted at that, and in California.  Yet we have made well thought out decisions.  I thought we all knew, atleast in the back of our heads, that this housing bubble wouldn&#039;t last forever.  So I guess I should sit here and feel sorry for you, and sorry for me.  Because you haven&#039;t learned from your mistakes, your just the victim..............</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is for Vonna<br />
So you are just a victim in all this?  Well that&#8217;s what you are saying.  Apparently the bad choices you made, specifically the ARM, aren&#8217;t your responsibility.  And since it&#8217;s apparently a fact it takes 2 peoples incomes for 1 to survive (totally out of left field), why are there still plenty of people like me.  I have a mortgage that I pay, I have 2 children, am a stay at home mother.  So you think my husband must be out making good money somewhere huh?!!! Uh no, we are military, enlisted at that, and in California.  Yet we have made well thought out decisions.  I thought we all knew, atleast in the back of our heads, that this housing bubble wouldn&#8217;t last forever.  So I guess I should sit here and feel sorry for you, and sorry for me.  Because you haven&#8217;t learned from your mistakes, your just the victim&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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