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	<title>Comments on: Is Dividend Investing Dead?  The Derek Foster Story</title>
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		<title>By: MoneyEnergy</title>
		<link>http://www.four-pillars.ca/2009/03/17/is-dividend-investing-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-17670</link>
		<dc:creator>MoneyEnergy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 02:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GatesVP has a good point above about the &quot;money shuffling.&quot;  Somewhere somebody has to actually produce something.  That&#039;s why it&#039;s misleading to measure GDP by including how much money people &quot;spend&quot; - because that counts the wealth production twice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GatesVP has a good point above about the &#8220;money shuffling.&#8221;  Somewhere somebody has to actually produce something.  That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s misleading to measure GDP by including how much money people &#8220;spend&#8221; &#8211; because that counts the wealth production twice.</p>
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		<title>By: MMM</title>
		<link>http://www.four-pillars.ca/2009/03/17/is-dividend-investing-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-14483</link>
		<dc:creator>MMM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 16:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came to know that Derek Foster sold his investment almost a month later in  mid march...I thought this was a contrarian call.  Time to buy instead of sell.  Buy is what I did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came to know that Derek Foster sold his investment almost a month later in  mid march&#8230;I thought this was a contrarian call.  Time to buy instead of sell.  Buy is what I did.</p>
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		<title>By: Gates VP</title>
		<link>http://www.four-pillars.ca/2009/03/17/is-dividend-investing-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-12461</link>
		<dc:creator>Gates VP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, Derek Foster was attempting to take advantage of a market inefficiency in the pricing of Canadian dividend-bearing assets.  The very nature of these inefficiencies is that they disappear when everyone knows about them and &quot;hops aboard&quot; as &lt;b&gt;@NurseB911&lt;/b&gt; points out.

But this is par for the course, &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efficient_market_hypothesis&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;it&#039;s a well-known phenomenon&lt;/a&gt;, sometimes it just takes a little while for reality to &quot;snap back into place&quot;. 

The long-term truth is, his strategy was eventually doomed to falter. At some point the dividends were going to drop too far or the market was going to over-value dividends. He was &lt;i&gt;going&lt;/i&gt; to have a rough year. 

But the underlying fundamental truth is that his investment strategy was providing very little actual value to the world around him. He&#039;s basically just collecting and living off someone else&#039;s interest payments.

It&#039;s great that he managed to pull it off, but we can&#039;t &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; pull it off. It simply doesn&#039;t scale that way.  We can&#039;t all live off other people&#039;s sweat, somebody has to do the work.  

His new strategy of trading options is equally doomed to un-scalable failure. It may continue to work for him for some time, but options trading lacks a distinct element of &quot;creation&quot; that is required for sustainable long-term growth. 15 million Canadians trading options is not going to somehow improve everyone&#039;s quality of life, it&#039;s just going to shuffle around money like a poker game.

And if there&#039;s something that embodies this financial crisis, it&#039;s that underlying truth: &lt;b&gt;Somebody has to do the work&lt;/b&gt;. &lt;b&gt;Work &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; wealth&lt;/b&gt;.

So Foster may have to come &quot;back out&quot; of full retirement, but hey he was already writing books, so it&#039;s not like he was doing &quot;nothing&quot; anyways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, Derek Foster was attempting to take advantage of a market inefficiency in the pricing of Canadian dividend-bearing assets.  The very nature of these inefficiencies is that they disappear when everyone knows about them and &#8220;hops aboard&#8221; as <b>@NurseB911</b> points out.</p>
<p>But this is par for the course, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efficient_market_hypothesis" rel="nofollow">it&#8217;s a well-known phenomenon</a>, sometimes it just takes a little while for reality to &#8220;snap back into place&#8221;. </p>
<p>The long-term truth is, his strategy was eventually doomed to falter. At some point the dividends were going to drop too far or the market was going to over-value dividends. He was <i>going</i> to have a rough year. </p>
<p>But the underlying fundamental truth is that his investment strategy was providing very little actual value to the world around him. He&#8217;s basically just collecting and living off someone else&#8217;s interest payments.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s great that he managed to pull it off, but we can&#8217;t <i>all</i> pull it off. It simply doesn&#8217;t scale that way.  We can&#8217;t all live off other people&#8217;s sweat, somebody has to do the work.  </p>
<p>His new strategy of trading options is equally doomed to un-scalable failure. It may continue to work for him for some time, but options trading lacks a distinct element of &#8220;creation&#8221; that is required for sustainable long-term growth. 15 million Canadians trading options is not going to somehow improve everyone&#8217;s quality of life, it&#8217;s just going to shuffle around money like a poker game.</p>
<p>And if there&#8217;s something that embodies this financial crisis, it&#8217;s that underlying truth: <b>Somebody has to do the work</b>. <b>Work <i>is</i> wealth</b>.</p>
<p>So Foster may have to come &#8220;back out&#8221; of full retirement, but hey he was already writing books, so it&#8217;s not like he was doing &#8220;nothing&#8221; anyways.</p>
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		<title>By: TheTradingReport &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ten Links for March 21, 2009</title>
		<link>http://www.four-pillars.ca/2009/03/17/is-dividend-investing-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-12046</link>
		<dc:creator>TheTradingReport &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ten Links for March 21, 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] also analyzed the Derek Foster story in Is Dividend Investing Dead? The Derek Foster Story. He also hosted Edition #197 of Carnival of Personal Finance and included my post on master limited [...]</description>
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		<title>By: MoneyEnergy</title>
		<link>http://www.four-pillars.ca/2009/03/17/is-dividend-investing-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-11930</link>
		<dc:creator>MoneyEnergy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still following a buy and hold dividend strategy.  I stay with plain-Jane stocks, utilities, telcos, etc.  The main stocks I&#039;d avoid right now are American consumer-service-based stocks.  Heck, I was thinking about Foster again the other day and recalled that even Jim ROGERS has pulled out of all his equity holdings (except for China) right now.... so Foster&#039;s hardly alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still following a buy and hold dividend strategy.  I stay with plain-Jane stocks, utilities, telcos, etc.  The main stocks I&#8217;d avoid right now are American consumer-service-based stocks.  Heck, I was thinking about Foster again the other day and recalled that even Jim ROGERS has pulled out of all his equity holdings (except for China) right now&#8230;. so Foster&#8217;s hardly alone.</p>
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		<title>By: Weekly Review The Derek Foster Edition - March 16th &#124; Financial Highway</title>
		<link>http://www.four-pillars.ca/2009/03/17/is-dividend-investing-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-11928</link>
		<dc:creator>Weekly Review The Derek Foster Edition - March 16th &#124; Financial Highway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 05:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Four Pillars looks at the Derek Foster Story [...]</description>
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		<title>By: TStrump</title>
		<link>http://www.four-pillars.ca/2009/03/17/is-dividend-investing-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-11924</link>
		<dc:creator>TStrump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 03:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was actually going to partly follow a dividend investing strategy and this has made me think twice.
I&#039;m not a contrarian, but isn&#039;t now a good time to buy?
Anyways, my hats off to the guy.  At 34, I was no where near ready to retire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was actually going to partly follow a dividend investing strategy and this has made me think twice.<br />
I&#8217;m not a contrarian, but isn&#8217;t now a good time to buy?<br />
Anyways, my hats off to the guy.  At 34, I was no where near ready to retire.</p>
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		<title>By: Asset Allocation-What it is and Why it's Important &#124; Financial Highway</title>
		<link>http://www.four-pillars.ca/2009/03/17/is-dividend-investing-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-11892</link>
		<dc:creator>Asset Allocation-What it is and Why it's Important &#124; Financial Highway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] week there had been several posts about Derek Foster selling out, Canadian Capitalist and Four Pillars were two blogs posting on him, one of the major issues with his portfolio was that he had 100% [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Shevy</title>
		<link>http://www.four-pillars.ca/2009/03/17/is-dividend-investing-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-11886</link>
		<dc:creator>Shevy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 02:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I bet the CRA could make him show proof!  But they won&#039;t share the info with anyone.

And I think it&#039;s silly to sell now, when he&#039;s always advised &quot;buy and hold&quot;.  If I had money for this sort of thing I&#039;d be buying dividend stocks (not any other kind) right now, not selling them.  He sold them low so he can rebuy them higher when the economy rebounds?  Isn&#039;t that the opposite of what you&#039;re supposed to do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I bet the CRA could make him show proof!  But they won&#8217;t share the info with anyone.</p>
<p>And I think it&#8217;s silly to sell now, when he&#8217;s always advised &#8220;buy and hold&#8221;.  If I had money for this sort of thing I&#8217;d be buying dividend stocks (not any other kind) right now, not selling them.  He sold them low so he can rebuy them higher when the economy rebounds?  Isn&#8217;t that the opposite of what you&#8217;re supposed to do?</p>
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		<title>By: Four Pillars</title>
		<link>http://www.four-pillars.ca/2009/03/17/is-dividend-investing-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-11880</link>
		<dc:creator>Four Pillars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Squawk - yes, many have.  He has never been able to show any proof however.  This isn&#039;t to say that he&#039;s lying or anything but like a lot of people he doesn&#039;t keep the best records.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Squawk &#8211; yes, many have.  He has never been able to show any proof however.  This isn&#8217;t to say that he&#8217;s lying or anything but like a lot of people he doesn&#8217;t keep the best records.</p>
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