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	<title>Comments on: ING Pre-TFSA Plus $25 Referral Bonus For New ING Account</title>
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		<title>By: Old new guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old new guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 05:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This could be a long question but I will try and keep it short. I am almost 38 married with 2 young kids, 2 and 3. I have about 40k in a pension fund with my old job ad my new job does matching RRSPs which is at 10%. My wife has rrsps aswell likely closer to about 5%. We both have lots of top up room in our RRSP’s. I was looking at a TFSA with RBC, but realise ING or someone else will likely be cheaper. I am thinking of using the TFSA for a combo of emergency money, kids educations, retirement top up etc. The TFSA would hold some MMF’s, ETFS, maybe some divedend stocks. I never really thought a lot about these things when was on the pension plan, but now I am playing catch up and trying to learn quickly. I appreciate any feed back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This could be a long question but I will try and keep it short. I am almost 38 married with 2 young kids, 2 and 3. I have about 40k in a pension fund with my old job ad my new job does matching RRSPs which is at 10%. My wife has rrsps aswell likely closer to about 5%. We both have lots of top up room in our RRSP’s. I was looking at a TFSA with RBC, but realise ING or someone else will likely be cheaper. I am thinking of using the TFSA for a combo of emergency money, kids educations, retirement top up etc. The TFSA would hold some MMF’s, ETFS, maybe some divedend stocks. I never really thought a lot about these things when was on the pension plan, but now I am playing catch up and trying to learn quickly. I appreciate any feed back.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 00:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DAvid - I&#039;ll have to think about this.  Given that I&#039;m probably not going to use the EF, taking a chance on termination fees is probably a good move.  I&#039;ll take a closer look at the fees and see what comes out.

Thanks for the suggestion - I suspect a post might come out of it.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DAvid &#8211; I&#8217;ll have to think about this.  Given that I&#8217;m probably not going to use the EF, taking a chance on termination fees is probably a good move.  I&#8217;ll take a closer look at the fees and see what comes out.</p>
<p>Thanks for the suggestion &#8211; I suspect a post might come out of it.  <img src='http://www.four-pillars.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: DAvid</title>
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		<dc:creator>DAvid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 00:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You could buy a 1 year GIC. ING is offering 
   1 year	1.25%
1.5 year	1.50%
   2 year	2.25%
   3 year	2.50%
   4 year	2.50%
   5 year	3.25%

so even if you looked at these options you&#039;d be ahead. Since your plan is to remove the money for emergencies only, you might take a hit on some of the interest, but since you have no real plans to spend the cash, why not lock it in for a year or two (or five) and get a better deal. Once you have set up the GIC ladder, you&#039;ve got  cash coming due each year, with no penalty.

I expect rates to start to climb. Mortgages are starting to ease, so interest rates should follow soon.
DAvid</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could buy a 1 year GIC. ING is offering<br />
   1 year	1.25%<br />
1.5 year	1.50%<br />
   2 year	2.25%<br />
   3 year	2.50%<br />
   4 year	2.50%<br />
   5 year	3.25%</p>
<p>so even if you looked at these options you&#8217;d be ahead. Since your plan is to remove the money for emergencies only, you might take a hit on some of the interest, but since you have no real plans to spend the cash, why not lock it in for a year or two (or five) and get a better deal. Once you have set up the GIC ladder, you&#8217;ve got  cash coming due each year, with no penalty.</p>
<p>I expect rates to start to climb. Mortgages are starting to ease, so interest rates should follow soon.<br />
DAvid</p>
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		<title>By: Four Pillars</title>
		<link>http://www.four-pillars.ca/2009/10/14/ing-pre-tfsa-plus-25-referral-bonus-for-new-ing-account/comment-page-1/#comment-37292</link>
		<dc:creator>Four Pillars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DAvid - that&#039;s not a bad thought.  I&#039;m not as confident that the interest rate offers will be high enough in the spring to make it worthwhile.  And will they stay at those rates?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DAvid &#8211; that&#8217;s not a bad thought.  I&#8217;m not as confident that the interest rate offers will be high enough in the spring to make it worthwhile.  And will they stay at those rates?</p>
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		<title>By: DAvid</title>
		<link>http://www.four-pillars.ca/2009/10/14/ing-pre-tfsa-plus-25-referral-bonus-for-new-ing-account/comment-page-1/#comment-37286</link>
		<dc:creator>DAvid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strikes me there will be a bunch of higher interest rate offerings during RRSP season. Why lock into ING Savings, when other options will be available come spring which will likely pay more than $9 over the life of the savings vehicle. 

DAvid</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strikes me there will be a bunch of higher interest rate offerings during RRSP season. Why lock into ING Savings, when other options will be available come spring which will likely pay more than $9 over the life of the savings vehicle. </p>
<p>DAvid</p>
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		<title>By: Canadian Personal Finance Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Random Thoughts on Liars</title>
		<link>http://www.four-pillars.ca/2009/10/14/ing-pre-tfsa-plus-25-referral-bonus-for-new-ing-account/comment-page-1/#comment-37240</link>
		<dc:creator>Canadian Personal Finance Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Random Thoughts on Liars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 06:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Four Pillars talks about ING Pre-TFSA Bonus and why it is a good place to put your emergency funds. Good idea. Free at 45 asked Do you Have [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Squawk - all our carrots were somewhat bitter.  However with some cooking and sugar coating they turned out ok.

IS - everything is theoretical with the TFSA because of the low limits - but give it time.  Eventually everyone will have significant TFSA accounts/contribution amounts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Squawk &#8211; all our carrots were somewhat bitter.  However with some cooking and sugar coating they turned out ok.</p>
<p>IS &#8211; everything is theoretical with the TFSA because of the low limits &#8211; but give it time.  Eventually everyone will have significant TFSA accounts/contribution amounts.</p>
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		<title>By: Squawkfox</title>
		<link>http://www.four-pillars.ca/2009/10/14/ing-pre-tfsa-plus-25-referral-bonus-for-new-ing-account/comment-page-1/#comment-36827</link>
		<dc:creator>Squawkfox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 06:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been waiting for that twisted carrot. You never mentioned how it tasted...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been waiting for that twisted carrot. You never mentioned how it tasted&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: IS</title>
		<link>http://www.four-pillars.ca/2009/10/14/ing-pre-tfsa-plus-25-referral-bonus-for-new-ing-account/comment-page-1/#comment-36803</link>
		<dc:creator>IS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 00:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FOF - Good point yes. Not sure how big of a difference it would make when you only have 5K in the account but over time it will indeed make a big difference.

Good post FP, thanks for bringing that up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FOF &#8211; Good point yes. Not sure how big of a difference it would make when you only have 5K in the account but over time it will indeed make a big difference.</p>
<p>Good post FP, thanks for bringing that up!</p>
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		<title>By: Four Pillars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Four Pillars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FoF - I agree, putting non-registered high income investments (if you own any) into a TFSA makes a lot more sense than keeping your emergency fund in there (if you have one).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FoF &#8211; I agree, putting non-registered high income investments (if you own any) into a TFSA makes a lot more sense than keeping your emergency fund in there (if you have one).</p>
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